posted 2013-Oct-28, 8:51 … You can use CocoDry™ to harden and solidify both water based (acrylic & latex) and oil-based paints for disposal. | Do Not Sell My Data Ventilate the room, opening windows so there is a fresh supply of air. More Buying Choices $35.06 (4 new offers) Wet Look Acrylic Enamel Hardener, 1/4-Pint. They used to match color to the paint chips. When it comes to doing flooring, countertops, jewelry, art, and other projects, epoxy is a top choice. Latest Forum Topics. It is used to harden the paint for other manufacturers that sell oil based paint for farm equipment. Hardener is a part of a paint system, it's not an accessory that you add "if you want to". Thanks! Wood, your hand tools, you and a little know-how. The more absorbent the product you add, the faster the paint will dry. This will help minimize bubbling on … your friendly ACE sells it as a tractor paint. Paint hardener usually comes in packets that can be used to harden up to 1 gallon of latex paint. Questions and answers about CNC machines, tooling, best practices, and projects. The rustoleum was not drying ( oil evaporation is slow as the humidity has been 90%) even after a week? MIX the paint and hardener in a mixing cup then add reducer to get the spray you like. Add 2 oz.per gallon when using with Industrial ChoiceTM DTM Acrylic or Rust-OIeum Industrial Speedy-Dry DTM Acrylic Enamel and just 1 oz. Apply the clearcoat according to instructions. here ya go Doc, explains it better than typing, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uMmNFOH6EY, it should spray fine with a 1.4 or 1.5 needle/nozzle. Rust sucks! The paint is adhered well, it does not come off in strips, indicating poor adhesion, but it does chip easily. This forum is for scrollsawers: share your tips, ask questions... Have a question? Hey Doc, I need to paint my old skid-steer tractor. Share your tips and challenges ... Before you pick up those woodworking tools, take the time to ensure your safety in the shop! Due to CocoDry's™ non-leach characteristics, hardened paint will not \"re-wet\" even if it comes into contact with liquids in a landfill. The hardened paint is acceptable for curbside disposal. Exciting? (Although I've seen it said that adding a little 2k hardener to 1k extends the time window for clearing with 2k clear. Hot Thinners like acetone or lacquer thinner can “burn” an enamel and it will fade out pretty quick, but it does dry fast. If you have a Tractor Supply around you, they sell the “Magic” line of tractor enamel and there is a hardener available for it. Found an interesting thread regarding rust removal and fixing the rust and the reaction to the rusty primer. The ONLY time I've seen acrylic enamel harden too fast is by crossing different brands of paint and hardeners. I have an HVLP gun and a truck that is really rusty and no money? You can get hardeners on ebay pretty cheap. Pour a packet of paint hardener into the can and stir it with a wooden paint stick. Your woodworking skills are displayed for several lifetimes in each project. $11.92 $ 11. Guessing you spraygunned it, so presumably in a room temp-ish place? Mix ratio (industrial enamel hvlp): 6 paint 3 acetone 1/2 hardener for 6/3/.5 8/4/1 is also popular. Both are a catalyst which helps your paint cure and dry for a lasting finish. Use a wooden paint mixing stick and always use a clean one after it has been used to mix paint with hardener in it. See MrUnix comment. Using a jig is like having a couple extra hands helping out. Before the 1970’s coir pith was often burned as there was no practical way to discard what they regarded as waste. I would suggest a HVLP spray gun. It started to make noises and lost power to the wheels. I would like to paint some parts black … I’m wanting to know ....Ratio of Hardener to paint, and type of solvent prefered ? $1.99 shipping . -- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable. The more absorbent the product you add, the faster the paint will dry. Majic Catalyst Hardener Increase your protection with Majic Catalyst hardener by adding one half pint to one gallon of Alkyd Enamel. The clear coat does take an activator 2:1 mix or 4:1 or whatever it says the mix is on the label. Now it’s gonna rain. I'm new here, please be nice reference: whrl.pl/RdKXlK. I couldn't find it by searching. PS: Thinned with acetone, it drys significantly faster than unthinned… usually 4 hours or so until dry to the touch, and I’ve never had it take longer than 12 hours. Krud Cutter has the solution just add this to your paint and you will be ready for disposal. LJ will not be held liable for the actions of any user. Yes hardener will increase the gloss but this is compensated by adding more flattening agent. Polyurethane paint is admired for its excellent adhesion abilities, gloss, flexibility and tough resistance to poor weather conditions, harsh chemicals and solvents. Basically, it's done in steps, and also in time frames. The only time u add an activator to the paint is when it's a single stage paint. tips? I usually do ALL of my mixing in the mixing cup form a paint shop. Since writing this I found more information. Oil-based polyurethanes are easier to apply than water-based finishes because they are slower drying and do not raise the wood grain the way water-based finishes can. They used to match color to the paint chips. After you find the 8:1:1 ratio markers, pour in the paint. I have Acetone and Mineral Spirits. Yep it works well. Acrylic enamels are separated into … Different wood requires different woodworking strategies - from cutting to finishing. The rustoleum was not drying ( oil evaporation is slow as the humidity has been 90%) even after a week? I’ve shot a lot of Rustoleum oil based enamel with the cheap little HF purple HVLP gun with great results. Both help the basecoat or clear coat to cure and harden, preventing bubbling or fading while also helping to protect against weather or chemicals. -- Last week I finally got my $*i# together. Add the Acrylic Hardener just prior to application of the coating. Topic tags/keywords: Thanks for checking in. Tractor paints are usually applied with a roller or a brush. Says it’s for oil based enamel, but I’ve never tried it with Rustoleum. Leave the can of paint alone for about 30 minutes. The brand I just purchased is Dynatron 412 Wet Look Hardener. I do question the use of acetone to thin, it sounds pretty harsh for an enamel, so check the can to be sure. Dramatically cuts down on drying times and provides a wetter edge for improved blending into previous coats. See the technical data sheet to establish the ratio and use a marked paint mixing stick to help you create a base material before the viscosity check begins. CocoDry's™ honeycomb particulate structure can increase up to nine times its own mass during absorption, allowing paint to become encapsulated and turning it into a solid substance. Relief, 3D, chip-carving, whittling; carving knives, chisels, pocket-knives, power tools. Last Year chainsaws? Helps harden latex and acrylic paints and stains to solids for disposable methods I am restoring an early Barracuda and wanted a paint hardener to add to the Rustoleum Professional semi-gloss black paint I used to coat the chassis and suspension components. Catt Dave: I would like advice from those who have used John Deere paint and added a hardener. How much? They used to match color to the paint chips. In the auto paint world, activators are synonymous with "hardener" or "catalyst". of latex paint and a 5 gal. In this video Kevin Tetz explains Mix Ratios and how to properly mix car paint when spraying your next project vehicle. Shortening the story: I’ve used the tractor paint before, and I have used Rustoleum to paint my old truck. Yes hardener will increase the gloss but this is compensated by adding more flattening agent. I bought both the Krylon and Valspar hardeners, and conducted tests using both on primed sheet metal scrap pieces. Took a leap and mixed the hardener with my hand mixed color and I was successful. With that said, its a frame and suspension parts, not a 4 door rat rod body. If you need to extend the life of the paint with the hardener you can put it in a refrigerator for up to 8 hours. I bought both the Krylon and Valspar hardeners, and conducted tests using both on … Mix the hardener only with the clearcoat that you're going to use. This is the time required to activate the hardener. Hardener which is also known as Activator. -- Adjustable Height Workbench Plans http://www.Jack-Bench.com, Read through the topic entries and Yes you can. Has anyone used hardener in a spray application with HVLP? Latest Blog Entries | Only 2 left in stock - order soon. Leave the can of … should be used with it. Thin with Acetone as per the label (although I generally thin more than the recommended amount). High Volume Low Pressure. Reducing with lacquer thinner instead of enamel reducer makes it kick faster yet. I have over mixed it many times in a production paint shop and the end result was no short term or long term negative effects. Mix well. The hardener will have a pot life of about 8 hours. Today coir is used in a wide variety of products, from soil amendments to oil absorbents.We source our coir from growing regions worldwide, and we are committed to working closely with suppliers to bring our customers the highest quality consistent products available.To request samples or schedule a demo give us a call at 855-551-COCOOr if you'd just like more information, visit our website: www.CocoAbsorb.comWe're on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Coco-Absorb-109479659240486/You can Tweet us: https://twitter.com/CocoAbsorbOr DM us on Insta: https://www.instagram.com/cocoabsorb/ Manage Consent. Hardener, not with 1k. Use enamel reducer too, and not what is states on the rustoleum can. First try was a success. Need to get rid of that old paint your storing??? It's a solvent base paint u don't need an activator for it. Paint hardener is activated by water, so add 1 cup of water to the mixture and stir. The finish, whether paint, wax, stain, or something else, can make or break a project. Epoxy is highly versatile and can be used to create many different looks and also can be molded into almost any shape. The superabsorbent powders encapsulate the liquid component of the paint, forming a solid block of material. This year it’s learning all about Lawn Tractors a course taught by Murphy. Care that, when you are mixing the Valspar paint/enamel hardener you stir it well with the paint and let it sit for 30 minutes. They are oil based like Rustoleum. Your order may be eligible for Ship to Home, and shipping is free on all online orders of $35.00+. If so you can use SEM Trim Black #39143 or PPG 9266. | Copyright Im interested, Can you use an acrylic hardener with an oil base enamel? Guitash . Hardener is not cheap so I don't want to be using more than necessary, but I also don't want to use too little so that it fades quickly. It made sense to me that the paint being an Alkyd enamel that the Hardener would be good. So for every 8 cups of paint you pour into your large mixing bucket you’ll have to add 1 cup of reducer and 1 cup of hardener. Westchester County, New York tells visitors to their website that mixing kitty litter or other absorbent materials such as sawdust or sand in with the paint will expedite the hardening process. High quality hardener formulated to provide added gloss, durability and hardness to acrylic Urethane finishes. Paint hardener usually comes in packets that can be used to harden up to 1 gallon of latex paint.Pour a packet of paint hardener into the can and stir it with a wooden paint stick.Paint hardener is activated by water, so add 1 cup of water to the mixture and stir. I remember painting a car years ago and using a hardener additive. Rustoleum actually has more selection. Most of the chips came when working on the boat the day after it was painted. They don’t specify type of needle for nozzel as they often are using from their Harbor freight gun. I have heard of some recommendations about adding hardener to it to improve the shine/durability, but before I bought anything I wanted to ask one more time to find out what the best recommendation is, as far as what hardener, reducer, etc. It’s acrylic hardener under different names. Sounds like a good way for me to go. The rustoleum was not drying ( oil evaporation is slow as the humidity has been 90%) even after a week? Just finished putting my mower deck together. I am restoring an early Barracuda and wanted a paint hardener to add to the Rustoleum Professional semi-gloss black paint I used to coat the chassis and suspension components. a challenge, perhaps? 99. If you go to a good autobody paint store they will set you up with what you need. HDX Paint Hardener is used to harden latex paints. As a verb paint is to apply paint to. It’s important to mix car paint to the right viscosity so the paint doesn’t run lines or leave the car with a shabby finish. Only 6 left in stock - order soon. Let the paint come to room temperature before using it. Need to get rid of that old paint your storing??? Rustoleum and industrial enamel is very foregiving paint. Thoroughly stir the enamel with a paint stirrer. Once cured out is very durable. LOL! In simple terms, let’s use 8oz cup sizes in this example … To break this down, Its no different than auto paint . Waste Paint Hardener turns liquid latex paint solid for curbside disposal. From the can: Lots of YouTube videos. Brad: I am not sure on the brand of hardener that I have used, but my John Deere dealer sells it. Latest Projects | -- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher, -- https://www.artisticwoodstudio.com/videos. User #509347 10 posts. The paint is adhered well, it does not come off in strips, indicating poor adhesion, but it does chip easily. 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